Welcome to the New Themes.org
by Chris Dibona, in freshmeat - Wed, May 1st 2002 00:00 PDT
Themes.org has become part of freshmeat today. I'd like to share a
short history of the site and explain the reasons behind the decision
to do this.
Themes.org was started in 1997 by Earthlink support tech Trae "Octobrx" McCombs, who had a burning
need to "make X look purty". It quickly became the premier place on
the Internet to get themes and skins for Open Source window managers
and programs. In early 1999, Trae came to work for VA Research (now VA Software) and was tapped to
take over site management of the Linux.com domain. Themes.org was
officially made part of VA Research at that time.
Less than a year later, VA purchased Andover.net (now OSDN), which brought Themes.org, SourceForge, Linux.com, Slashdot, freshmeat, Thinkgeek, and others under one roof.
Greg "KFC" Sanders was then tapped
to run Themes.org. Under Greg's tutelage, it grew to approximately
12,000 themes, and we experienced a number of important firsts,
including the greatest number of daily visitors and the largest number
of cease-and-desist letters (an unfortunate measure of popularity
nowadays).
Unfortunately, Themes.org was hacked pretty badly in late 2000,
causing it to be taken down and rewritten. This occurred during a time
of great upheaval for the corporate parent and a major retrenchment of
resources. During this time, Themes.org lay fallow and poorly
administered.
scoop, Hemos, and myself, tired of its sad
state, decided to put some spare time into the rehabilitation of the
site. A major problem was that the code bases for Themes were
insecure, and we were faced with maintaining yet another codebase
within the company. After a period of evaluating whether or not we had
to have a custom interface and codebase, we rolled most of the old
Themes.org content into freshmeat. We decided to do this because
freshmeat has all the features one needs to access the data in a
secure, expedient way. It supports screenshots, has an effective
cataloging system, and has the personnel to handle the extra load.
You can view just the themes at http://themes.freshmeat.net/.
Since it is our intention to only distribute themes under OSI-approved
licenses, most of those listed as "Not for commercial use" (which
contained images belonging to others) were removed. If we expect
people to respect the GPL, we must also respect them.
Over the years, a great number of Open Source community members have
volunteered their time to the creation of this site and the themes it
contains. Themes.org served them very well for the majority of its
life, and it is our goal to make it a place to be proud of yet
again. If you have any questions, feel free to post them here or email
us. Enjoy the themes, and go make X purty!
Editor's note
Chris, Liedra, and
Ray have been
working hard at importing and editing the theme descriptions. By the
time they appear on the news page, they should be acceptable, but when
you go past the front page and poke around the collection, you'll find
that we've only processed about 25% of them. We'd like your help with
working through the rest. Here's what you can do to help:
Take ownership of your themes
When we made the switch to fm][, we introduced project ownership. All
the projects were initially owned by "N/A", and authors needed to
claim ownership of them. The same is true now. Please find your
themes and click the "change owner" links in the "[Project]" menus to
associate them with your freshmeat user account. While you're there,
make sure all the information about your themes (categories, etc.) is
correct. Make sure we have the most recent version of your theme.
In the themes section (unlike our software projects section), we host
themes, so you can use the "add release" function to upload your most
recent tarball.
Note that only the themes from the database of "Classic" themes.org
were imported into freshmeat. If yours was one of the 200-odd themes
that were part of themes.org after it was relaunched after the hack,
please submit it to us as a new theme.
Fix the descriptions
Many of the descriptions of themes contain spelling, grammar, and
punctuation errors. Some were too long for our database fields and
have been truncated. Others are simply uninformative. We're going
through these as fast as we can, but there's a boatload of them. If
you have time, you can help us by submitting changes for problems you
see. When you come across a bad description, click the "update
project" link. There are two descriptions for each theme. The long
description is used on the theme's individual page, and the short
description is used for search results and category browsing pages.
You can find our general policies about style in this article. The
particular rules for descriptions are:
- Short description
- The short description should be a complete phrase, but not a
complete sentence. In other words, it should be "A theme
featuring cows.", not "This is a theme featuring cows.". It
should not include the theme's name. It should end with a
period.
- Long description
- The long description should contain full sentences. It
must include the theme's name, usually as one of the first
words in the description.
All the general guidelines apply; don't refer to the author as "I",
don't use HTML, don't duplicate information already in other database
fields (such as license information), etc.
Here are some examples:
| Theme |
Description |
Wrong |
Right |
| BlueSteel |
Short |
A theme I made from modifying my Steel Orange theme. I
recolored all the buttons |
A theme based on Steel Orange. |
| Long |
A theme I made from modifying my Steel Orange theme. I
recolored all the buttons/title bars/tiles, it is also using
background from Propaganda Volume 12. I am also using the
BlueSteel gtk theme, and TopazAmp xmms skin. Last Update
Comment: - New font. - All around frames. - Other stuff.
|
BlueSteel is a modified version of the author's Steel Orange
theme. It recolors all the buttons, title bars, and tiles. It
uses a background from Propaganda Volume 12, the BlueSteel GTK
theme, and the TopazAmp XMMS skin.
|
| UnixOS |
Short |
My first theme. Features Tux, The FreeBSD daemon and Java's
Duke, and A great b |
A theme featuring Tux, the FreeBSD daemon, and Duke. |
| Long |
My first theme. Features Tux, The FreeBSD daemon and Java's
Duke, and A great background from propaganda.
|
UnixOS features Tux, the FreeBSD daemon and Java's
Duke. It uses a background from propaganda.
|
| Water |
Short |
Theme Name : Water Author : Amy R. Dawson (epoh@tamu.edu)
Description : |
A calm water scene at night. |
| Long |
Theme Name : Water Author : Amy R. Dawson (epoh@tamu.edu)
Description : calm water scene at night. Copyright : images
made by myself with Bryce3D Web Site :
http://epoh.resnet.tamu.edu
|
Water features a calm water scene at night. |
Be patient
Please be extra patient with us for the first few days; we'll have a
large backlog of work to process as people flood us with change
requests. We'll get to yours as quickly as we can.
Thanks for your support. We look forward to hearing your thoughts and
suggestions about the site.
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"Poorly Ported" pack of themes to GTK2
by angles - Jun 16th 2002 19:13:07
I hacked the following GTK1.2 themes just enough to get them working in
pre-release versions of Gnome2 (GTK2). For my own use I put them in a RPM
package. My question is can I submit this to FM themes or does it insult
the authors to see hacked versions of their work.
The readme clearly says:
"PACKAGER DID NOT AUTHOR ANY THEMES HERE, AUTHORS DESERVE CREDIT FOR
THE ORIGINAL THEME, AND AUTHORS ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THESE "POORLY
PORTED" THEMES IF THEY DO NOT LOOK AS GOOD ..."
Package currently includes:
Adept-Premier-x2, AdeptX-y2, Aphex-blue-x2, Aphex-x2, AquaGraphite-x2,
AquaLightBlue-x2, AquaX-gtk-2-x2, Balloon-x2, Bumblebee-x2, Dark-x2,
Emotion-Sickness-x2, Etria.org-x2, H2O_Amber-x2, H2O_Amythist-x2,
H2O_Emerald-x2, H2O_Ruby-x2, H2O_Saphire-x2, LCARS-x2, Metallic_plum-x2,
Mozilla-modern-2-x2, Mozilla-modern-x2, Origami-x2, PastelFlat-z2. The
last 3 chars have meaning described in the pack's readme file.
Anyone know it I can submit the pack?
-- That's "angles" as in geometry
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Posting new Themes
by jamstar - Jun 16th 2002 18:30:38
I like the idea of themes being posted at Freshmeat. However, I've tried
uploading my latest, Cancerman for Blackbox, and I keep getting an error
message every time I try to upload it. I can't get past Step 1. This is
ridiculous. Shouldn't this be *EASY* to use? Otherwise, why bother
sharing what you've done if you can't submit it?
FWIW, this theme is now on my website, along with other themes I've
authored for Blackbox. At least I *know* I can put it *there*...
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Re: Posting new Themes
by jeff covey - Jun 17th 2002 15:41:46
1. How long did it take you to come up with the theory that posting a
comment here would do more to help you than going to
http://themes.freshmeat.net/contact/
and writing to the people who can actually do something for you?
2. How much help do you expect when your entire bug report is that you
got "an error message"?
-- vs lbh pna ernq guvf, lbh'er n trrx.
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agrh!
by Edson Medina - May 5th 2002 15:52:55
now the homepage will be flooded with crappy themes, which means more
distance between us and the good software.
dont you guys want to move slashdot inside too?
what's the purpose of this?
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Re: agrh!
by Patrick Lenz - May 5th 2002 15:58:10
> now the homepage will be flooded with
> crappy themes, which means more distance
> between us and the good software.
Yes. agrh!.
-- It's all my fault!
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Re: agrh!
by jeff covey - May 6th 2002 12:18:55
Are people just genetically incapable of reading the FAQ?
http://freshmeat.net/faq/view/43/
-- vs lbh pna ernq guvf, lbh'er n trrx.
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Re: agrh!
by brett randall - May 7th 2002 10:05:14
vs lbh pna ernq guvf, lbh'er n trrx
fubjvat zl gehr pbybhef
-- "I had a fortune cookie the other day and it said: 'Outlook not so good'. I said: 'Sure, but Microsoft ships it anyway'."
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Sawfish theme issues
by Pedro Lopes - May 5th 2002 11:01:57
First of all, thanks to the FM crew for rescuing the once mighty
themes.org. I had almost given up on them...
I just wanted to report a problem with the sawfish themes:
Sawfish reads themes in tar.gz formaty, but it requires the file name to
match the name of the theme contained in the tarbal.
Unfortunately the FM backend renames the file to name-version.tar.gz.
There was a time the old themes.org had the same problem, and every once
in a while someone would come on the mailing list asking "why can't I get
themes to work?".
So, would it be possible to respect the name of the uploaded file? As it
stands all SF themes dowloaded from freshmeat have to be corrected by hand
or they won't work. :(
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Fvwm themes? XDM? Bashish?
by Otto Maddox - May 5th 2002 10:47:24
Can anybody please tell me if there are plans to put the themes for fvwm
back onto the new site?
How about XDM resources? Bash prompts?
It seems that all the stuff that I used from the good old classic
themes.org is not here... bummer, because I was really excited when I
heard themes.org was back up and running.
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broken full views
by luciash d' being - May 4th 2002 03:15:44
the full screenshots or previews seems to be broken :(
instead of showing the full view image it shows broken image named
array#### where #### is a number.
this error appears (i tried it with) in opera 6.0b2 and mozilla 0.9.8
-- :.. :.: ::: :
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Re: broken full views
by luciash d' being - May 4th 2002 03:19:42
oops, i'm sorry! the name of the image is in this format:
#####.Array
-- :.. :.: ::: :
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Re: broken full views
by Patrick Lenz - May 4th 2002 03:27:28
> oops, i'm sorry! the name of the image
> is in this format:
> #####.Array
Fixed. Thanks for the heads up.
-- It's all my fault!
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Backgrounds
by starseeker - May 3rd 2002 19:13:44
What is the policy if the original source for a background image has
vanished?
Also, in the case of themes which use Digital Blasphemy themes (which will
have to be removed since he doesn't permit redistribution, see
http://www.digitalblasphemy.com/webmasters.shtml) is there any way that a
sort of archive be created containing the theme without the background
image, and a note as to which image was used so people who have a
subscription to the site can still make use of the theme?
-- Homework? What homework?
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Re: Backgrounds
by jeff covey - May 4th 2002 12:59:59
> What is the policy if the original source for a background image
has
> vanished?
I don't understand what you're asking.
> Also, in the case of themes which use Digital Blasphemy themes
> (which will have to be removed since he doesn't permit
> redistribution, see
> http://www.digitalblasphemy.com/webmasters.shtml) is there any way
> that a sort of archive be created containing the theme without the
> background image, and a note as to which image was used so people
> who have a subscription to the site can still make use of the
theme?
I think the best solution is for the theme author to include the
necessary information in the tarball README.
-- vs lbh pna ernq guvf, lbh'er n trrx.
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wallpaper catagory?
by TKO - May 3rd 2002 08:30:58
Any chance of a wallpaper section being implemented?
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Re: wallpaper catagory?
by jeff covey - May 3rd 2002 11:34:17
> Any chance of a wallpaper section being implemented?
See http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/974/.
-- vs lbh pna ernq guvf, lbh'er n trrx.
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Re: wallpaper catagory?
by kisses - Jun 25th 2002 02:06:17
what can we find in this catagory?
-- lrkisses
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Re: wallpaper catagory?
by kisses - Jun 25th 2002 02:10:07
what kind of wallpaper can we find in this catagory?
-- lrkisses
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Re: wallpaper catagory?
by jeff covey - Jun 25th 2002 07:00:34
> what kind of wallpaper can we find in this catagory?
What kind of comments can we find under this article?
-- vs lbh pna ernq guvf, lbh'er n trrx.
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Preview
by pr0t3uS - May 3rd 2002 08:15:59
It's nice to have themes back so the comunity can start to live again. I
like everything you made but the theme preview. It's to small!!! I can see
themes badly. So please make the preview just a bit bigger.
Thanks
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Re: Preview
by Patrick Lenz - May 3rd 2002 08:40:15
> It's nice to have themes back so the
> comunity can start to live again. I like
> everything you made but the theme
> preview. It's to small!!! I can see
> themes badly. So please make the preview
> just a bit bigger.
http://freshmeat.net/faq/view/44/
-- It's all my fault!
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Where to put the Backgrounds
by Steven Murdoch - May 3rd 2002 05:35:46
Firstly, thanks to all those who worked to move Themes.org over to
Freshmeat, it's much better now.
However I can't see where to put background images that are not associated
with any particular Window Manager. I have a couple that I would be happy
to upload again, but there doesn't seem to be a section for these at the
moment. Are there plans to create a new section, since I think this would
be a good idea?
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Re: Where to put the Backgrounds
by Wiggins - May 3rd 2002 12:34:19
> Firstly, thanks to all those who worked
> to move Themes.org over to Freshmeat,
> it's much better now.
> However I can't see where to put
> background images that are not
> associated with any particular Window
> Manager. I have a couple that I would be
> happy to upload again, but there doesn't
> seem to be a section for these at the
> moment. Are there plans to create a new
> section, since I think this would be a
> good idea?
From above comment:
http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/974/?topic_id=974
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Wish that site looked as good as classic.themes.org, but . . .
by J. J. Ramsey - May 2nd 2002 23:46:03
. . . I'm at least glad that themes.org is actually working again. It was
sad to see themes.org become a pathetic shadow of its old self. Now at
least the site is *functional*, which is something that couldn't be said
of the last themes.org.
At least its up and running.
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Adult Section
by A.Sleep - May 2nd 2002 22:29:16
I'm wondering... after a talk w/ KFC and the promise of an adult section -
that never came (understandably so), can I post my 'adult themes' to the
adult section now?
Or should they stick to my site? Some of them - yes, include nakie chicks
- but are just plain good.
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Re: Adult Section
by jeff covey - May 3rd 2002 07:54:54
It's here.
-- vs lbh pna ernq guvf, lbh'er n trrx.
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Re: Adult Section
by A.Sleep - May 3rd 2002 13:37:02
> It's here.
>
I'll take that as a "Yes, go ahead and send them in.".
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heh.
by John "Antitux" Dee - May 2nd 2002 21:38:13
I really miss themes.org. it used to feel like a real community of artists.
Maybe this will help bring it back.
One can only hope...
--
John "AntiTuX" DeeMaking love, war, and little babies...
well, at least babies...
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Occy != ELNK
by redeye - May 2nd 2002 21:03:03
BOING! Trae (occy to his loving friends) was NEVER a EarthLink Tech. He
worked for the dead and much beloved MindSpring. He bailed for the heady
dot.com(bomb) days in San Jose (then Lake Tahoe) before the darkness swept
over the land.
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I knew it!
by Phill Kenoyer - May 2nd 2002 18:41:17
One day I thought to myself, "Freshmeat would be a great place for
themes." So I typed in themes.freshmeat.net and there it was. I was
so happy that I posted it to the themes.org site. A few days later I seen
the message about a new site being done for themes.org. I just knew it
was going to be freshmeat doing it.
Thank you FM!
-- -FreshFlesh
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Thank You, and a Request to Theme creators:
by lymond6 - May 2nd 2002 12:04:11
First, just thank you so much. I loved the original themes.org, and was
deeply disappointed with the recent changes, making navigation, for my
tastes, a nightmare. The new themes section here at freshmeat is just
bloody marvelous. I can browse or search it to my heart's content, and
find a rich array of screenshots (for which I am a sucker) with facility.
And this is while you are having your shakedown cruise, it can only get
better! THANKS!
Now, a request for Theme Makers. Most of you do this in your screen shots,
but for those who don't, a suggestion: Can you endeavour to include either
menus or docks, not just a nice background pic. What makes many themes
rise or fall is the integration of contrasting or complementary designs
and colours in the varying parts of the desktop, be it menus or docks or
whatever. So when posting your screenshot, keep in mind that those details
are interesting and helpful to those of us who are new to your theme, and
may lack resources or time to download and try EVERY theme we might like
to. Thank you, in advance, for that consideration
-- Steven Zanvil Sawolkin
lymond6@earthlink.net
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"Complete Clause"? Uh, no...
by Weaselboy - May 2nd 2002 08:29:32
By definition a clause has a verb. So the examples you gave were not
complete clauses. However, they were complete *phrases*, which is
probably what you meant to say. 8th grade grammar, man...
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fvwm2 themes?
by Mike Fieschko - May 2nd 2002 00:27:43
Note that only the themes from the database of "Classic" themes.org were
imported into freshmeat.
Weren't there also fvwm2 themes on the
'Classic' themes.org?
If yes, are they 'to be added' or are there
license problems or something else preventing them from appearing?
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Re: fvwm2 themes?
by jeff covey - May 2nd 2002 07:26:37
> Weren't there also fvwm2 themes on the 'Classic' themes.org?
Hmmmm... According to scoop, there weren't. Sorry. :(
-- vs lbh pna ernq guvf, lbh'er n trrx.
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Really miss the old themes site design
by Pla Burns - May 1st 2002 23:44:30
I'm sorry if I'm the only one who feels this way, but I really don't like
the freshmeat navigation system, never have. I really love the search
ability here, as long as I'm not just browsing. I didn't like the revised
themes.org site either. I also don't really understand why the old site
design for themes.org was insecure(maybe because it used php?). I really
really miss the old themes.org. I used to sit there and browse all the
screenshots, thinking of how I can fix up my own desktop.
I think the navigation system on the old site was great, perfect for the
content that it hosted.
Thanks for bringing themes.org back, but I'll have fond memories, and old
themes from now on...
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Re: Really miss the old themes site design
by Ivan - May 1st 2002 23:51:59
> I'm sorry if I'm the only one who feels
> this way, but I really don't like the
> freshmeat navigation system, never have.
> I really love the search ability here,
> as long as I'm not just browsing. I
> didn't like the revised themes.org site
> either. I also don't really understand
> why the old site design for themes.org
> was insecure(maybe because it used
> php?).
Please don't be so ignorant. PHP does not make things insecure.
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Re: Really miss the old themes site design
by Adam Hooper - May 2nd 2002 12:46:01
> either. I also don't really understand
> why the old site design for themes.org
> was insecure(maybe because it used
> php?).
What do you think Freshmeat runs on?
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Ack...the signal to noise has gone down
by jef - May 1st 2002 23:35:23
How do I make sure theme announcements don't show up on the freshmeat
homepage? I really don't want to keep up with every theme that gets
placed into freshmeat. I'm much more interested in reading summariers of
software that I might not be aware of yet.
Don't get me wrong..having the themes archived is a good idea...but being
told about every addition of a theme on freshmeats homepage impairs my
ability to find new software.
I think as a defualt themes should be filtered out of the
www.freshmeat.net homepage new/updated software listings. Let
themes.freshmeat.net show today's theme updates. For me themes are
something I go hunting for when I get bored with what I have. The text
descriptions that show up on freshmeat.net's homepage for a new/updated
theme are of limited utility from day to day.
-- Elvis is dead...long live Elvis!
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Re: Ack...the signal to noise has gone down
by Catie Flick - May 1st 2002 23:54:05
> How do I make sure theme announcements
> don't show up on the freshmeat homepage?
You really want to visit software.freshmeat.net, the top
level freshmeat.net shows all the
releases for software., themes., and palm.freshmeat.net. Thus
palm.freshmeat.net shows only Palm-related releases, and
themes.freshmeat.net only theme-related releases.
- liedra
-- "the almighty backhander of open source"
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Re: Ack...the signal to noise has gone down
by jeff covey - May 2nd 2002 07:00:08
If you go to http://freshmeat.net/my/preferences/,
you can set which section should be redirected to by default. You
can, for example, ask that accessing http://freshmeat.net/ really takes
you to http://software.freshmeat.net/.
-- vs lbh pna ernq guvf, lbh'er n trrx.
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New Site
by michael - May 1st 2002 21:32:54
thank-you, thank-you, thank-you.
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Awesome....just plain awesome.
by fiveiron - May 1st 2002 20:41:05
You guys rock. This is the best decision I've seen happen in a long time
in any of the communities I have been involved in. If I wasn't bogged
down with work and other responsibilities online, I would offer my coding
services in a heartbeat.
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You go guys!
by squisher - May 1st 2002 18:02:07
Man, I was really missing a good place for themes. I'm really glad that we
again have a place for nice themes for our software! Wonderful, I hope
that lots of themes will be posted soon =)
Bye,
Squisher
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Screenshots
by pridkett - May 1st 2002 17:39:32
In general, thank you. I've been going through theme withdrawal for a long
time. Albeit, I'm happy with Crux, it's starting to get old. My one gripe
is that the screenshots aren't big enough to realistically distinguish the
themes.
Take a look at the thinice screenshot, because it is scaled you can't see
the finer details on the scroll bars. This goes for many other themes.
For apps where you can go to a home page and get more screenshots, this is
fine, but for themes you need to have the full resolution screenshots or
you will miss many of the important small details that the authors put
into their themes.
-- Pridkett's Home Page
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Re: Screenshots
by squisher - May 1st 2002 18:07:58
> Take a look at the thinice screenshot,
> because it is scaled you can't see the
> finer details on the scroll bars. This
> goes for many other themes. For apps
> where you can go to a home page and get
> more screenshots, this is fine, but for
> themes you need to have the full
> resolution screenshots or you will miss
> many of the important small details that
> the authors put into their themes.
I can only agree, there is not much more to add. I understand that
speed/storage space is rare and for applications it seems reasonable to
have small/bad quality screenshots. But themes are somewhat all about
eye-candy... so, good screenshots are a must. I don't think that it should
be too hard to fix that, right?
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Re: Screenshots
by Catie Flick - May 1st 2002 20:19:47
> My one gripe is
> that the screenshots aren't big enough
> to realistically distinguish the
> themes.
This has been brought to our attention, and although the themes that were
imported from themes.org will have the scaled screenshot, any updates of
screenshots or new themes will have the screenshot cropped to
640x480 in the top left hand corner. Hopefully this will address both
space and aesthetic issues. :-)
- liedra
-- "the almighty backhander of open source"
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Re: Screenshots
by unknown_lamer - May 2nd 2002 16:57:16
> This has been brought to our
> attention, and although the themes that
> were imported from themes.org will have
> the scaled screenshot, any updates of
> screenshots or new themes will have the
> screenshot cropped to 640x480 in the top
> left hand corner. Hopefully this will
> address both space and aesthetic issues.
> :-)
> - liedra
>
But what about Windowmaker (and AfterSTEP) themes where you want to see
what the dock tiles look like? Cropping the shot to the top-left 640x480
excludes this important element of theme. Grrr...
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Re: Screenshots
by Catie Flick - May 2nd 2002 18:46:35
> But what about Windowmaker (and
> AfterSTEP) themes where you want to see
> what the dock tiles look like? Cropping
> the shot to the top-left 640x480
> excludes this important element of
> theme. Grrr...
Well, for Window Maker at least there is (usually) the clip in the top
left... but we have put up a message stating what will be done with
screenshots - I guess if you find a dodgy one it'd probably be best to IM
the author to ask for a better one :-)
- liedra
-- "the almighty backhander of open source"
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Re: Screenshots
by unknown_lamer - May 2nd 2002 20:03:13
>
> % But what about Windowmaker (and
> % AfterSTEP) themes where you want to
> see
> % what the dock tiles look like?
> Cropping
> % the shot to the top-left 640x480
> % excludes this important element of
> % theme. Grrr...
>
>
> Well, for Window Maker at least there
> is (usually) the clip in the top left...
> but we have put up a message stating
> what will be done with screenshots - I
> guess if you find a dodgy one it'd
> probably be best to IM the author to ask
> for a better one :-)
>
> - liedra
>
Why not offer the option of cropped or scaled? Or, why not like the old
new themes.org where you had to pick the region for the link to the real
shot and let the theme submitter click on the region they want to show up
in the cropped screenshot (or at least offer an option of top-left,
bottom-left, top-right, bottom-right, center).
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Re: Screenshots
by Pasi Savolainen - May 2nd 2002 20:05:21
> But what about Windowmaker (and
> AfterSTEP) themes where you want to see
> what the dock tiles look like? Cropping
> the shot to the top-left 640x480
> excludes this important element of
> theme. Grrr...
What's wrong with taking screenshot at 640x480? Of course with WMaker one
should clearly state which reso the background pic is, but that's a
general courtesy anyways.
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Re: Screenshots
by Lee Dunbar - May 2nd 2002 09:00:01
> SNIP My one gripe is
> that the screenshots aren't big enough
> to realistically distinguish the
> themes.
SNIP
I'd venture that the new site will get some attention whereas, evidently,
no one cared about updating the screenshots on the old site (would that be
'cuz the old site was soo malfunctional?)
I feel rather fortunate: I found the old themes.org site only last week,
and joined freshmeat only yesterday.... 2 great benefits in 7 days can't
be all that bad, can it? Now if only DMCA would die rather loudly, I'd be
quite pleased.
-- Still a newbie, pardon the spew.
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Joke?
by inm - May 1st 2002 15:22:01
According to the time the article was written and-so-on, it looks like if
the funny guys at freshmeat.net/themes.org made a nice 1st of may joke too
this year..
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Re: Joke?
by jeff covey - May 1st 2002 16:42:08
> it looks like if the funny guys at freshmeat.net/themes.org made a
> nice 1st of may joke too this year..
No, but if you go back to the April 1st
article, you'll see today's events foreshadowed there. :)
-- vs lbh pna ernq guvf, lbh'er n trrx.
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Not all themes are transferred?
by peppo - May 1st 2002 14:13:52
I am missing all of my themes. They were added to themes.org a long time
ago. Some of them are "Noses," "Book of Saturday,"
"Relayer."
I am just a blind, or was there no note about some themes not being
transferred?
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Re: Not all themes are transferred?
by jeff covey - May 1st 2002 22:10:08
Hmmmmm... Were they added to themes.org after it was hacked and
restarted with the new codebase? The 200-odd themes from that
database weren't imported, just the ones from classic.themes.org.
-- vs lbh pna ernq guvf, lbh'er n trrx.
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Re: Not all themes are transferred?
by peppo - May 2nd 2002 12:37:41
> Hmmmmm... Were they added to themes.org
> after it was hacked and
> restarted with the new codebase? The
> 200-odd themes from that
> database weren't imported, just the
> ones from classic.themes.org.
>
>
That is a shame, because they were :/ I don't have them around. Pity.
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Misleading URL?
by Ed Avis - May 1st 2002 12:39:42
Surely themes.freshmeat.net should be a collection of CSS stylesheets to
make Freshmeat look nicer :-).
-- Ed Avis
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THEMES is always so slooooww!
by number9 - May 1st 2002 12:22:58
So, does sharing themes.org on freshmeat make it faster or slower? The way
I figure, by freshmeat sharing themes.org, they are giving it more of
something it already has too much of, publicity. I will continue to go no
where near that site outside weeknights between 2 and 4am.
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Brain-dead filtering?
by SpacedMan - May 1st 2002 11:43:57
Ugh. Normally I dont care about themes, so I've set all my filters to
filter them out when I browse www.freshmeat.net. But then occasionally I
might want to find a new theme. So I go to themes.freshmeat.net. Oh dear,
everything is filtered out!
Is it supposed to work like that?
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Re: Brain-dead filtering?
by Patrick Lenz - May 1st 2002 15:05:35
> Ugh. Normally I dont care about themes,
> so I've set all my filters to filter
> them out when I browse
> www.freshmeat.net. But then occasionally
> I might want to find a new theme. So I
> go to themes.freshmeat.net. Oh dear,
> everything is filtered out!
>
> Is it supposed to work like that?
Actually I suggest you use software.freshmeat.net for your regular
freshmeat usage which excludes themes completely without any filters and
use themes.freshmeat.net if you're hunting for themes.
-- It's all my fault!
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The other "stuff" from T.o?
by riddley - May 1st 2002 11:34:16
What about Mozilla/xmms/backgrounds/icons/fonts/xdm-themes/etc ?
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Re: The other "stuff" from T.o?
by Wiggins - May 3rd 2002 14:34:24
> What about
> Mozilla/xmms/backgrounds/icons/fonts/xdm-themes/etc
> ?
Backgrounds, icons, and fonts are already listed under teh
"Resources" link though no projects have been listed as of
yet....
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what???!!!!
by salmo - May 1st 2002 11:13:59
This is horrible! How am I supposed to find a new way to waste countless
amounts of time everyday waiting for the t.o pages to load with the
various types of themes I use? No more scouring the net for themes like
I've done since t.o stoppped being updated. Now I'm going to have to do
actual work or something. Geeze. You guys think you could make it so it
runs really slow, or is organized in such an odd way that I have to follow
12 links to get from GTK to Sawfish themes?
No, but really, this is incredible. I've always loved freshmeat because I
can find what I want in seconds. This is great that I can now do the same
thing with themes too, which deep down inside are software, too :-).
I'm so happy I think I may shed a tear. Keep up the good work. You guys
rock my world!
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Rating themes
by deuterium - May 1st 2002 10:49:13
Wow, this is was realy needed..
But erm, rating the themes is a bit sucky, because you've got to click a
link to go to the rating page.. Can't you make a drop down box next to
that blue/gray bar, which alows you to rate the theme/software?
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Re: Rating themes
by Patrick Lenz - May 1st 2002 15:06:02
> Wow, this is was realy needed..
> But erm, rating the themes is a bit
> sucky, because you've got to click a
> link to go to the rating page.. Can't
> you make a drop down box next to that
> blue/gray bar, which alows you to rate
> the theme/software?
I'll try to add that in. Give me a few minutes.
-- It's all my fault!
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Re: Rating themes
by deuterium - May 2nd 2002 07:26:34
> I'll try to add that in. Give me a few
> minutes.
You just made my day.. and it took you only a few minutes..
Did I make your day now? :) *grins*
FM is getting better and better!
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Needed Improvement
by DontTreadOnMe - May 1st 2002 09:30:32
You really, really need to break KDE (and presumably Gnome and
Enlightenment) themes out by which version of the desktop they support.
No one has the time or inclination to wade through 300 KDE 1.x themes to
find a KDE 3.x theme.
I suggest a structure like
themes/kde/1
themes/kde/2
themes/kde3
etc.
i.e. divided by major version number, then sorted by minor version number
in descending order. This would help IMMENSLY, as someone running KDE 3.x
will NEVER want an incompatable KDE 2 or KDE 1 theme.
The same goes for Gnome, Enlightenment, and other large systems whose
themes are incompatible from version to version.
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Re: Needed Improvement
by Patrick Lenz - May 2nd 2002 04:55:05
> You really, really need to break KDE
> (and presumably Gnome and Enlightenment)
> themes out by which version of the
> desktop they support. No one has the
> time or inclination to wade through 300
> KDE 1.x themes to find a KDE 3.x
> theme.
I just finished adding the additional nodes and I also moved themes (as
far as it was recognizable from the version string) into the appropriate
categories. This has currently been done for Enlightenment, Sawfish, KDE
and Gnome/GTK.
Thanks for your suggestion.
-- It's all my fault!
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I should point out...
by Chris DiBona - May 1st 2002 03:29:15
That the importing work wasn't done by me, but by Ray, Liedra and others, I
mostly worked on the old backends (And some code which we aren't using for
t.o) keeping them going unti lthe transition, fixing the mail servers etc.
I wanted credit to go where it was due, though.
I'm really happy at the response to this so far, though.
Chris DiBona
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Re: I should point out...
by Paranoid - May 1st 2002 04:19:13
> I'm really happy at the response to
> this so far, though.
Perhaps some clarification is necessary. After following the instructions
detailed in your paragraph titled "Fix the descriptions", I
received replies asking me not to do so until the package owners had been
properly located...
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Re: I should point out...
by Catie Flick - May 1st 2002 04:30:18
>
> % I'm really happy at the response
> to
> % this so far, though.
>
>
>
> Perhaps some clarification is
> necessary. After following the
> instructions detailed in your paragraph
> titled "Fix the descriptions",
> I received replies asking me not to do
> so until the package owners had been
> properly located...
I'm sorry, this was a minor miscommunication on our behalf, we would like
updates to themes, and encourage them - apologies to Paranoid, and thanks
for helping out.
- liedra
-- "the almighty backhander of open source"
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Yes! Finally!
by empurium - May 1st 2002 02:53:24
Dude this has needed to happen for a *LONG* time. The second version of
themes.org was absolutely disgusting; something freshmeat has never been.
Now freshmeat has gone and done the most unexpected (for me at least)
thing possible, while simultaneously doing the most sexy thing possible.
You dudes rock. <big kiss>
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gtk2
by Samuel Stringham - May 1st 2002 02:47:20
sunshineinabag.co.uk has a bunch of themes on it for gtk2. Maybe there
should be a GNOME2/gtk2 section started soon. I am _very_ glad to see
this happen. Thanks a lot you guys.
-- -- If I have said something interesting it is probably wrong
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woops...
by antiracist - May 1st 2002 02:39:50
silly me. forgot to check first, of course...
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what about enlightenment?
by antiracist - May 1st 2002 02:38:02
was enlightenment left off the list of theme sections on purpose or is it
not going to get a section? i know e.themes.org had more than enough
themes in it to justify it's own section here. after the demise of
themes.org i mirrored quite a few ethemes. if someone will contact me and
let me know if it's ok, i'll upload them so they're available for now
until the authors can claim them...
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The gods have smiled upon us this day...
by Rando Christensen - May 1st 2002 02:27:50
I almost had a heart attack when I read this.. The old themes.org was
beautiful, but I've been preaching the tragic end of themes.org since I
saw that horrid scooter fetch-the-rover monstrosity.
But this is the best possible news I could have seen for themes.org, and
was downright shocking (in a very good way). Thanks to everyone who has
made this possible.
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THANK YOU FM
by Zerotheos - May 1st 2002 02:18:04
Themes.org was once a very well designed (graphically) site, as well as
being a great time waster. Then it got hacked. Then it was gone. Then
some _complete crap_ site replaced it, with the lovely old site at
classic.themes.org.. but it was static and wasn't being updated. I cried.
One good thing came out of this, one of the themes was frozen on the front
page ;). But no really, I did cry. It sucked. Now I see this news? You
guys have beat my wildest expectations of what was going to happen to
themes.org. THANK YOU THANK YOU I'm sure I won't be the only person this
pleases. Thanks again!
btw someone burn the current themes.org, if I ever see the scooter again
I'll hurt someone.
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Spiffy :)
by David B. Harris - May 1st 2002 01:58:01
Okay, I'll probably piss some people off with this, and hurt some other
people's feelings. I apologise in advance.
OSDN has bough a number of sites and then redesigned them, not using the
original staff and designers. Usually it turned out really, really,
horribly. In fact, I can't think of a single example where they didn't
ruin the site.
Until today :) themes.freshmeat.net looks good, and I can already tell
that it'll be great to navigate and use. I guess the freshmeat.net code
just happens to work really well in this application.
I'd like to congratulate all the people involved in this transition. I
think it looks great so far, and I'm confident that, assuming themes start
rolling again, it'll just get better :)
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Re: Spiffy :)
by Yazz D. Atlas - May 1st 2002 23:24:47
> Okay, I'll probably piss some people off
> with this, and hurt some other people's
> feelings. I apologise in advance.
>
> OSDN has bough a number of sites and
> then redesigned them, not using the
> original staff and designers. Usually it
> turned out really, really, horribly. In
> fact, I can't think of a single example
> where they didn't ruin the site.
Humm... what sites did OSDN buy? I have worked what was Andover.Net just
before VA bought them and I don't remember adding any new sites since
then. Some sites like t.o and l.c came over from VA's neck of the woods.
Then again I have been wrong before. I'm to busy to think about such
things most days...have to make sure my cellphone battery doesn't fall off
again... :)
> Until today :) themes.freshmeat.net
> looks good, and I can already tell that
> it'll be great to navigate and use. I
> guess the freshmeat.net code just
> happens to work really well in this
> application.
>
> I'd like to congratulate all the
> people involved in this transition. I
> think it looks great so far, and I'm
> confident that, assuming themes start
> rolling again, it'll just get better
> :)
>
I'm very happy with the direction Freshmeat is heading and OSDN in
general. As one of the Sys Admins for OSDN it nice seeing t.o back (aka
site being actively developed). Now that its running under the Freshmeat
][ code I'm sure it will continue to be improved.
Your OSDN BOFH,
Yazz
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Re: Spiffy :)
by Martin Bogomolni - May 2nd 2002 21:15:44
Hey Yazz! Nice to see you're still having fun at OSDN... great job to
everyone on the transition. It's good to know that Themes.org is once
again online.
Now I won't have to go load a theme, go watch a movie, and get back in
time to see the page load.
Martin
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Good move
by prosa - May 1st 2002 01:46:10
It has been quite a long time since I roamed themes.org with such a
satisfaction. The previous site had too problems: it was overflown with
beautiful features that in fact clogged the navigation: lots of icons,
pictures, links, banners. When designing a site, even with such a theme
like themes, one should follow the rule of keeping it simple. The previous
site was beautiful but quite unpractical because it was too complex.
On the new/old freshmeat I was pleased to roam tens of themes in a few
minutes. I could fastly look at the themes pick up a few choices and stop
in two superb themes. And that's what people want: get a choice easy and
fast. My congratulations to the best Open Source bazaar in the net.
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