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feeling confused...
by fuser - Dec 8th 2005 14:45:29
I honestly believe that not everyone should need to have the knowledge
required to fix a "configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails
sanity check" error.
This whole stuff of "compiling" an "engine" just to be able to change the
user interface is kind of confusing for any final user that just wants to
change the look'n feel of the user interface. With "final user", I am
referring to a user like me, who has a computer at home for his family, for
keeping his bills in order, maybe listen to music and play a couple of
games; who does not -and doesn't need to nor wants to- know anything about
the inner workings of the "operating system" he sits in front of; a simple
human being with just the basic knowlege of computing; for whom the
computer is just like any other appliance at home, nothing more, nothing
less.
I'm so sorry guys, but has anybody thought of us when deciding how to have
these wonderful creations you develop deployed to us?
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Re: feeling confused...
by dcberg - Dec 11th 2005 10:23:35
You're right. This is a problem, esp because I'm one of those users
myself... there's a debian-package available at
benjamin.sipsolutions.net/experience
Other than that there's nothing we can do about it. Ask your favorite
distribution to include a pre-compiled engine in their packaging system.
All the other themes you can download do need a engine. Many of them use
the very old and crapy pixmap engine. some use clearlooks.... both are by
now shipped with most distributions. eXperience is not, yet, unfortunately.
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Main menu image size in Gnome 2.10
by dougthug - Jun 7th 2005 21:05:15
This isn't a bug, but I thought I would ask in case anyone has come across
this already cause I'm not having a whole lot of success googleing for it.
I just upgraded to Gnome 2.10 from 2.8x now that it has been marked stable
in Gentoo's portage tree. Everything from the experience theme is fine
with one odd exception. The main menu button, which is the green start
button that looks like XP's, is small. It looks like the problem is that
the menu button wants to be a certain width, which is less than half the
width of the actual image (gnome-main-menu.svg), so it shrinks it to fit
that width constraint and keeps the button proportional so the whole thing
shrunk. I have included two shots of the menu to show what I am explaining
pretty poorly. The first one should show it pretty well. The second one
is the same thing, but with panel-start.png as the panel background instead
of panel.png. Just to give a reference to what it's supposed to look like.
Thanks for any help you can offer.
Shot 1
Shot 2
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Re: Main menu image size in Gnome 2.10
by bberg - Jun 11th 2005 13:52:06
This is a known issue. In gnome 2.10 the behavior of the gnome-panel
changed, and the image is scaled like that. There is a bug against
gnome-panel. You can find it at http://bugs.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=302223
As long as this doesn't get changed, it will be impossible to have a
non-square start menu icon/button.
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Re: Main menu image size in Gnome 2.10
by dougthug - Jun 12th 2005 19:06:56
Figures. Thanks for the reply. In all my searching, I never saw this bug
:|.
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Re: Main menu image size in Gnome 2.10
by dcberg - Jul 28th 2005 11:15:54
This bug is closed as fixed now, so there's hope to find it in the next
Gnome release ;)
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Re: Main menu image size in Gnome 2.10
by McChen - Aug 31st 2005 15:23:32
I can confirm this scaling bug has been fixed with gtk 2.8 and a pre-2.12
gnome panel
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Engine ver. 0.9.3.3 not working in some applications
by dougthug - Apr 25th 2005 20:27:05
I installed ver. 0.9.3.3 of the experience engine, and now a couple of
applications don't use the look and feel anymore. So far the, only two
that i have noticed are Eclipse and
Ximian OpenOffice. I'm not sure what
makes these two unique and I have tried recompiling them.
I appreciate all the good work, thanks :).
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Re: Engine ver. 0.9.3.3 not working in some applications
by bberg - Apr 27th 2005 12:48:07
I made a mistake in the configure.ac so that the engine wasn't linked
correctly. This problem is now fixed.
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Re: Engine ver. 0.9.3.3 not working in some applications
by dougthug - Apr 28th 2005 15:53:58
Ahh typos, one of a coders worse enemies :). That got me fixed up.
Thanks.
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Grayed out buttons not right and Firefox favicon tab problem
by dougthug - Mar 24th 2005 11:39:00
A few of my applications have a problem where the buttons that are grayed
out look bad. They have vertical lines in front of them as long as they
are grayed out. Two examples would be gaim and azureus. This didn't start
taking place until after I installed (and started using) the experience
engine. Also, when I have multiple tabs open in Firefox, the favicon on
the tab that is in focus can sometimes go beyond the top of the tab. All
in all, the whole theme is very well done and these things aren't enough to
make me not use it, just though I would mention it.
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Re: Grayed out buttons not right and Firefox favicon tab problem
by dcberg - Mar 28th 2005 02:59:48
I'm currently not working on the theme, due to time-restrictions. However,
if you're talking about vertical lines in the icon, this should soon be
fixed. My brother (bberg) has gotten rid of some problems with the
engine.
About firefox: Please file a bug against firefox-gtk. It obviously doesn't
repect the x- and y-thickness property -- as you'll have noticed that
everywhere else the tabs look right.
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Re: Grayed out buttons not right and Firefox favicon tab problem
by bberg - Mar 28th 2005 09:14:53
I believe you are talking about the icons which have a vertical lines in
them. This was a bug in the code that made the icons more transparent, and
is fixed in the new version of the engine.
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Re: Grayed out buttons not right and Firefox favicon tab problem
by dougthug - Apr 1st 2005 11:04:02
Thanks, the new version resolved the funky buttons!
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Engine compilation
by bberg - Feb 17th 2005 12:12:55
There are quite a lot of people with too old bison version out there. If
you have problems compiling the engine because of this, you can delete the
%destructor line in parser.y.
Deleting the line might result in a small memory leak, if there is a
parser error, but nothing worse.
Benjamin
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Firefox Works!
by dcberg - Jan 25th 2005 10:11:12
After some minor changes to the engine firefox finally doesn't crash
anymore and has usable menus.
Also there are some improvements for the theme.
!!!Beware not to use the new engine with the old theme!!!
Due to a change in the engine it's not backward compatible to the old
theme.
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Wow!
by robsta - Jan 4th 2005 05:56:07
This is a great theme, definitely the best of it's class. All the widgets
are crisp and much love to the details!
Only one thing: while the browser stock icons (back, forward, stop,
reload) have a really good contrast to the containing toolbar others have
not (like new, open, print). E. g. in gedit or abiword it would be cool if
the toolbar icons would occur somewhat "stronger".
- Rob
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Broken Links
by dcberg - Jan 3rd 2005 12:41:44
For some reason the links were broken... I just linked the download to my
webspace, so I hope downloading will work after approval by the fm
maintainers.
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eXperience 3.0 released!
by dcberg - Jan 2nd 2005 14:56:55
Finally, only two days late for New Years I'm glad to announce the release
of eXperience 3.0. With a complete rewrite of engine and theme you now can
easily change the color scheme. Engine and theme are stable and have no
known bugs. I strongly recommend to update to this release!
The engine will allow various high quality pixmap themes to be created --
don't be shy!
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Re: eXperience 3.0 released!
by Hez - Jan 3rd 2005 08:17:55
The setup sounds wonderful, but all of the new (Jan-2-2005) downloads are
showing up as 0 bytes. Are any fixes possible for this?
Great work on the theme, I have enjoyed past versions, and look forward to
being able to try this new one.
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Re: eXperience 3.0 released!
by dcberg - Jan 3rd 2005 12:47:34
As for right now get them directly from:
Engine:
http://home.tu-clausthal.de/~dcb/experience-engine-0.9.0.tar.gz
Gtk-Theme:
http://home.tu-clausthal.de/~dcb/eXperience%203.0.tar.gz
Icons:
http://home.tu-clausthal.de/~dcb/eXperienceCrystal.tar.gz
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Re: eXperience 3.0 released!
by dcberg - Jan 3rd 2005 13:38:43
K, now there's one known bug. It's a crash bug, but it'll hardly ever
occur. only if you shrink windows to 0 px.
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Re: eXperience 3.0 released!
by helli72 - Jan 3rd 2005 23:41:25
> K, now there's one known bug. It's a
> crash bug, but it'll hardly ever occur.
> only if you shrink windows to 0 px.
Now, there's two known bugs for me ;-)
It's a crash bug in Firefox (FC3, with IceWM & Rox-Filer) if I want to
choose the menues (File, Edit, View...)
And it's a graphical bug in Firefox on FedoraCore 3 (FC3) with Gnome.
Btw, the tab spaces between tabs looks really not good. Make them nice
together or an option, thanks!
More, an other default icon set should be choosable, not everyone wants an
icons set like XP (I like Bluecurve icons to much)
Please don't be angry about my personal opinions, it's only me!
All in all, it could get nice for me, go on!!
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Re: eXperience 3.0 released!
by dcberg - Jan 4th 2005 09:24:42
Hmm, you're right about the graphical bug in the menus... there's no
background being drawn, but random memory, but I don't see the crash. (Can
you provide a backtrace?)
The tabs looking so ugly in firefox is a firefox issue, I can't to
anything about. It just ignores the x and y thickness of the widgets. I
need them to look the way they do, to work out with the shadow, and to have
a small (2px) gap around the notebook... I don't really like them myself,
but it's 2px+2px... basically there's nothing I can do about it, unless
someone changes the design of GtkNotebooks (the extensions could be
GtkButtons in a GtkContainer in a GtkNotebook, while the Notebook itsself
could be a GtkBox in a GtkNotebook -- though I'm not sure, how the BOX_GAP
would work with this)
As for the Icons you might simply change the iconrc. Just put in, what
ever iconrc you like.
Personally I'm hoping for a freedesktop.org icon spec to be introduced
pretty soon, to stick to. I don't really feel like learning the
profundities of the Gnome icon themes. That's why the stocks aren't in the
icon theme. I just couldn't get them working easily for myself, while the
iconrc was easy to understand.
Take care!
David
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Bug Fix
by dcberg - Oct 19th 2004 04:11:13
Yeah, even though, I'm still looking forward to 3.0 I'm glad to pronounce
that the bug causing all those crashes on my computer is fixed and was a
easy to fix after all. Now you can enjoy 2.0-pre I believe.
To install: download the eninge (2.0-pre2) and do
./configure --prefix=/usr
make
make install
download the theme and put into the themes folder (if you already have 2.0
nothing has changed)
Enjoy the look of XP Luna. :)
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2.0-pre buggy
by dcberg - Oct 14th 2004 11:25:13
I have the feeling that the 2.0-pre release is a lot buggier tha I thought
it was.
I don't suggest to update from 1.3 even though 2.0-pre *looks* a lot
better.
I don't know how to downgrade the project to 1.3 right now, or how you
guys can get it here... I hope to figure out pretty soon.
Sorry about any inconvinience with this version. If someone know fixes,
please tell me!
David
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eXperience 2.0-pre not working
by dcberg - Oct 4th 2004 00:57:02
For some reason the tar.gz for eXperience 2.0-pre is totally screwed up
from what I can tell. Sorry about that. Since I don't have the files right
now, I asked my brother to fix this and hope that it'll be done and through
tonight.
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Icons?
by Allan David - Sep 10th 2004 21:46:09
Where can I found the icons for this theme?
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Looks good but Gnome panels look wrong
by Zhyla - Jul 17th 2004 10:36:38
Awesome theme, the only thing is I have a "medium" Gnome panel
(48px high I think) and it looks like there is a pixmap that is intended
for panels that are half as high, so it gets tiled vertically. Maybe it
could get stretched?
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Re: Looks good but Gnome panels look wrong
by dcberg - Sep 23rd 2004 02:03:23
Some body tell me how :(
I don't think it's possible with the current pixmap engine and as I take
it, I know quite a bit about using that engine.
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Gnome Panels looks wrong
by dcberg - Sep 29th 2004 06:32:07
Well, I filed a bug against the Gnome Panel, because I can't theme it, the
way it is right now.
Maybe add some comments so that it'll get more recognition :)
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